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You can now listen to a variety of forestry-related topics on the go with our podcast series. These podcasts feature a range of interviews with experts from different sectors, covering topics from value chains to digitalisation.
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Forest for the future podcast series

Episode 44: CSR 3.0 – what is it? And is it any good? featuring Etienne White, Let’s create possible

22.08.2022What is the role of collective action as we move into CSR 3.0? That is the core of the conversation I have with Etienne White from Let’s Create Possible in this episode of Forest for the Future. CSR has moved from compliance to zero impact and is now transitioning into a phase of giving back. What does that mean for companies wanting to work with deeply CSR and for their brand positioning? We will cover topics as broad as collective heroism, circularity, storytelling, climate action and how we might in the global north learn a lot from companies and governments in the global south.

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Episode 43: Fashion inside out – FSCs engagement in the Fashion industry, featuring Loa Worm and Ewa Hermanowicz

22.07.2022 What does FSC have to do with fashion and the sustainable transition of the fashion industry? That is what this special episode of Forest for the Future focuses on. The episode is called inside out because in this episode, your regular host Loa Worm has been placed on the other side of the table and is being interviewed by Ewa Hermanowicz. The episode will explain what FSC is doing in the fashion industry, and why forests play a role in the fashion industry. It will also take you to the Global Fashion Summit held in Copenhagen in June 2022. And it will give you insights on what other industries could learn from the fashion industry when it comes to sustainable transition – and where the fashion industry is choosing not to talk about the elephants in the room, when they ought to.

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Episode 42: Using the power of value chains to engage rubber producing smallholders, Interview with Sean Nyquist, FSC Value Chain Development

08.07.2022 How can FSC help establish market access and maintain a market for 6 millions smallholders producing natural rubber, especially in south east Asia, Western Africa and Latin America? FSC has a mission to vastly increase the number of owners of small pieces of land – or smallholders in FSC terminology - worldwide working with FSC. Our own work on value chain development will be instrumental in reaching this goal, as well collaboration with other organisations, NGOs and brands. In this newest episode of Forest for the Future I’ve invited Sean Nyquist, Value Chain Development Officer for natural rubber at FSC, to join me online for a chat on what that actually means and why it the chosen method of FSC.

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Episode 41: First round of blockchain implementation – what did we learn and where do we go? Interview with Michael Marus and Julie Smith, FSC

08.04.2022. What is the status of the FSC blockchain pilot? In this episode we return to one of our most popular topics: the FSC blockchain application pilot. The first pilot of the blockchain with certified companies from China and Ukraine have now been concluded. We will talk about what we’ve then learned from the live test and what the next steps are in both the short and the medium term. To help me answer these questions, I invited FSC CIO Michael Marus and senior project coordinator Julie Smith. If this is the first time you hear about the FSC Blockchain, we encourage you to listen to episode 4 and 19 of this podcast first, as they contain the background for the project.

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Episode 40: Ready. Set. Go! How implementing standardised metadata will increase the value of our data, interview with Michael Marus, FSC and Patrick Mallet, ISEAL

24.03.2022. After a few years under development and implementation the ISEAL Core Metadata set is now ready for broad implementation in the sustainability community. I therefore invited Michael Marus, FSC Chief Information Officer and Director of IT, and Patrick Mallet, ISEAL Director of Innovations, back on the podcast to give us an update. Why is it so important that we standardize our metadata and what do we stand to gain as individual organizations and as a sustainability community? In this episode we get hands on in how to start an implementation process and what the benefit could be. If you are interested in learning more about the ISEAL Core Metadata set and the project behind it, episode 18 is the first episode on the project and gives insight into the background and work behind it. The ISEAL Core Metadata Set was funded by ISEAL Innovations Fund, which is supported by the Swiss State Secretariat for Economic Affairs SECO (https://www.seco-cooperation.admin.ch/secocoop/en/home.html)

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Episode 39: Protecting forests and people in times of war, interview with Kim Carstensen, Lieske Van Santen and Marc Jessel, FSC

10.03.2022. In this episode of Forest for the Future we cover the most difficult topic, we have ever talked about on the podcast; the recent military invasion by Russia on Ukraine and how FSC as a voluntary system act when faced with such violent actions by a government on the people of another country. On Tuesday March 8th 2022 FSC communicated our decision to suspend all trading certificates in Russia and Belarus, so no product from either countries can be sold with FSC claims after April 8th 2022. Forest management certificates in Russia can remain valid but without the ability to trade. The decision was almost two weeks underway, and, in this episode, we will dive into why it was such a difficult decision to make and what we expect the impact of it will be on both the people and forests; not only in the effected regions but also around the globe. To help me answer these difficult questions, I invited Kim Carstensen, FSC Director General, Marc Jessel, FSC System Integrity Director, and Lieske Van Santen, FSC Global Network Director.

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Episode 38: FSCs Technology wheel starting to spin, with Michael Marus, Marc Jessel and Scot McQueen, FSC International

16.02.2022. STATUS OF THE YEAR In this episode we will take stock of 2021 as a year through the lens of digitalization in FSC. We will talk about technology and our innovations within technology both as tools for engagement, increased system user-friendliness and for assurance measures. We will talk about blockchain, systems integrity performance, risk-based interventions, and the revision of FSC Policy of Association. We will talk about how FSC is evolving within geospatial tools. And then we will of course talk about how it all interconnects and what we can expect in 2022. I have invited Marc Jessel, FSCs Chief Systems Integrity Officer, Scot McQueen, FSC Senior Technology Officer and of course Michael Marus, FSC Chief Information Officer and Director of IT to get me up to speed.

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Episode 37: Code green for humanity ahead? An interview with Etienne White, President for Brands for Good

28.01.2022. The latest IPPC Report warned us: This is a code red and we need to get our act together now as human kind, if we want to stop climate change from spiraling out of control. Did this warning wake up the corporate world and what are we doing to transition in time? In this brand new episode of Forest for the Future I talk to Etienne White, President for Brands for Good about the mega trends in the sustainability landscape.

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Episode 36: Providing proof of the origin of timber, an interview with Marc Jessel, Chief System Integrity Officer at FSC International

14.01.2022. How can wood identification technologies and more specifically systematic stable isotope testing help companies and the FSC system prove the origin of timber? That is the focus of this episode of Forest for the Future, where we dive into stable isotope testing and how FSC is going pilot the use of the technique to build an iso archive.

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Episode 35: Pivoting on digital audit reporting – an update interview with Steve Ball and Joanna Nowakowska, FSC International

08.12.2021. FSCs transition to digital audit reporting and the roll out of a new standardized audit reporting template will make us able to identify risk, see trends and patterns, that we couldn’t before – and of course in the longer term make us be able to aggregate that data into global datasets that can help us prove the actual impact of FSC.

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Episode 34: Will consumers be driving the action? Featuring Procter & Gamble, Hunter Boots, GlobeScan and FSC

02.12.2021. What does consumers expect from brands and FSC when it comes to sustainability and do they care? That is the focus of this episode of Forest for the Future, where we hear from GlobeScan, Procter & Gamble, Hunter Boots and of course FSC!

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Episode 33: FSC Members edition – Day 5 highlights of the FSC General Assembly 2021 with Kim Carstensen, CEO

MEMBERS EDITION The FSC International General Assembly 2021 is being held in a virtual setting. In this short podcast format, we provide members and stakeholders of FSC a short daily recap of what happened during the day and what to look out for tomorrow. The podcast also contains an introduction to the side meetings held during the day. This episode covers Day 5, Friday 29, 2021

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Episode 32: FSC Members edition – Day 4 highlights of the FSC General Assembly 2021 with Kim Carstensen, CEO

MEMBERS EDITION The FSC International General Assembly 2021 is being held in a virtual setting. In this short podcast format, we provide members and stakeholders of FSC a short daily recap of what happened during the day and what to look out for tomorrow. The podcast also contains an introduction to the side meetings held during the day. This episode covers Day 4, Thursday 28, 2021

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Episode 31: FSC Members edition – Day 3 highlights of the FSC General Assembly 2021 with Kim Carstensen, CEO

MEMBERS EDITION The FSC International General Assembly 2021 is being held in a virtual setting. In this short podcast format, we provide members and stakeholders of FSC a short daily recap of what happened during the day and what to look out for tomorrow. The podcast also contains an introduction to the side meetings held during the day. This episode covers Day 3, Wednesday October 27, 2021 If you are interested in M20 on Climate Action, we encourage you to listen to Episode 27 of this podcast series as well, where the topic is covered in a full episode.

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Episode 30: FSC Members edition – Day 2 highlights of the FSC General Assembly 2021 with Kim Carstensen, CEO

MEMBERS EDITION The FSC International General Assembly 2021 is being held in a virtual setting. In this short podcast format, we provide members and stakeholders of FSC a short daily recap of what happened during the day and what to look out for tomorrow. The podcast also contains an introduction to the side meetings held during the day. This episode covers Day 2, Tuesday October 26, 2021

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Episode 29: FSC Members edition – Day 1 recap of the FSC General Assembly 2021 with Kim Carstensen, CEO

MEMBERS EDITION The FSC International General Assembly 2021 is being held in a virtual setting. In this short podcast format, we provide members and stakeholders of FSC a short daily recap of what happened during the day and what to look out for tomorrow. The podcast also contains an introduction to the side meetings held during the day. This episode covers Day 1, Monday October 25, 2021 

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Episode 28: FSC members edition: More digital technology in FSC? A discussion with members Seth Zuckerman, Melissa Graham and Gerrit Marias on Motion 61 and Motion 57 prior to the FSC General Assembly 2021

FSC MEMBERS EDITION: From October 25th to 29th FSC will host its international general assembly and in this episode of Forest for the Future we hand the mic to two members of FSC to explain their motions proposed for the upcoming event - and to another member, who have some worries about the changes being proposed. In other words : this episode will show FSC membership democracy in action! More specifically we will talk about the use of technology in FSC and how it can help improve credibility and transparency in FSC, while reducing cost. The conversation is based on motion 61 in which Seth Zuckerman suggests that it should be mandatory for FSC forest management certificate holders to supply GIS boundary data files. And on motion 57 in which Melissa Graham suggests to make remote auditing a permanent option in a risk based approach. Both motions are discussed with Gerrit Marais, long-term FSC auditor and forest manager, who has some concerns.

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Episode 27: FSC members edition: FSC needs to take climate action now! A discussion with members Alan Smith and Mike Bekin on motion 48 and 20 prior to the FSC General Assembly 2021.

FSC MEMBERS EDITION: From October 25th to 29th FSC will host its international general assembly and in this episode of Forest for the Future we hand the mic to two members of FSC to explain their motions proposed for the upcoming event. More specifically we will talk about FSCs contribution to the climate emergency. And we will dive into how we can use ecosystem services certification in an attempt to become more relevant on the climate agenda. The conversation is based on motion 20 and motion 48, in which Alan Smith and Mike Bekin ask FSC to do more, do better and do it faster! If you are interested in learning more about what FSC is already doing on climate change and ecosystem services, much more can be found in episode #26 with Pina Gervassi and Asger Olesen, where they explain actions already taken by FSC and what is in the plans for the upcoming years.

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Episode 26: New roadmap to bring climate action front and center in FSC, Interview with Pina Gervassi, Climate and Restoration Engagement director and Asger Olesen, Chief Climate and Ecosystem Services Officer.

19.10.2021. In this episode of Forest for the Future we talk about climate action and what FSC is doing to become more relevant in the climate agenda. Taking action on climate can be quite difficult – because how do we know that what we are doing actually has the effect that we are looking for and that we will be able to do enough in time.

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Episode 25: Taking a stand for workers rights, interview on the implementation of core workers rights in FSC with William Cook, CW/CoC Policy Officer and Vicky Tran, CW/CoC Policy Manager at FSC 

14.09.2021. On 1. September 2021 FSC made it obligatory for all FSC certified companies around the world to ensure and prove that they adhere to the core ILO conventions, which aim to remove all forced and child labor, address discrimination and ensure that everyone everywhere has freedom of association and collective bargain rights. This new requirement affects +77.000 companies around the world covered by a FSC chain of custody certificate. 

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Episode 24: Maintaining engagement in a pandemic, interview with Kim Carstensen, Guillermina Garza and Michael Marus, FSC

23.08.2021. Without a general assembly there wouldn't be an FSC. It is the most important thing in the DNA of the organization. It's where our members come together. They meet each other. They understand each other. They discuss with each other. They decide what we do. And without this decision-making on who we are, what we do, we wouldn't be FSC. What then happens when a pandemic forces you to replace in-person dialogue with even more screen time?

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Episode 23: Making the simple the strongest, an interview with Marc Jessel, FSC Chief System Integrity Officer

18.08.2021. In this episode I have a conversation with Marc Jessel, the Chief System Integrity Officer, who joined FSC in 2021. Our conversation covers what our next big focus areas in integrity are, how they all interconnect and what it will mean for stakeholders.

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Episode 22: Getting up to speed on Ecosystem services with Asger Olesen, FSC Chief Climate and Ecosystem Services Officer

11.08.2021. In this episode we dive into ecosystem services and give room for a basic introduction. What is it? What is FSC doing on it? How does it connect to nature based solutions? And how does what FSC is doing connect to what the rest of the world is doing?

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Episode 21: Free, Prior and Informed Consent – the Canadian way with Pamela Perreault, Director, The Firelight Group and Francois Dufresne, President of FSC Canada 

02.07.2021. In this episode we dive into the topic of Free Prior and Informed Consent (FPIC). In short FPIC is a requirement to ensure, that indigenous peoples are not only informed about management on their lands but also consent to that management prior to it being conducted.

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Episode 20: Making data from the ground a reality – an interview with Joanna Nowakowska, Deputy Director, FSC Technology and Information Unit

01.06.2021. What is the status of the roll out of FSC Digital Audit Reporting? That is the focus of this episode of Forest for the Future. FSC Digital Audit reporting was released in a pilot version in October 2020. The project will for the first time bring all FSC audit reports into one structured unified format.  

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Episode 19: How blockchain can help FSC - Interview with CIO Michael Marus

10.05.2021. What is the status of the FSC blockchain pilot? That is the focus of this episode of Forest for the Future, where we talk to FSC CIO Michael Marus and dive deep into the beta pilot, that has just launched.

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Episode 18: What keeps the FSC International Board up at night? An interview with the members of the FSC International Board Strategic Planning Committee

08.04.2021. This episode focuses on the new FSC Global Strategy as a whole and features an interview with the members of the FSC International Board Strategic Planning Committee, Alan Thorne, Mauro Armelin and Zandra Martinez. The episode dives into questions like - what is the evolvement since the last strategy? 

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Episode 17: A FSC relevant for communities, smallholders and Indigenous Peoples with Vera Santos, New Approaches Program Manager and Francisco Souza, Managing Director, FSC Indigenous Foundation

04.03.2021. This episode focus on smallholders, communities and indigenous peoples and their role of in the new FSC Global Strategy. The episode also concludes our mini series on the FSC Global Strategy.

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Episode 16: New ways to find common ground. Landscape approaches in FSC with Gemma Boetekees, FSC Stakeholder Solutions Director and Claude Garcia, Senior Scientist at ETHZ and CIRAD

10.02.2021. In this episode we are going to look beyond FSC and certification for forest areas. We are going to look at the concept of landscape approaches and how we as FSC can help facilitate a holistic approach to management of landscapes across interests and stakeholders.

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Episode 15: Auditing from the sky. The launch of FSC GIS Portal. Interview with Andres Ramirez, FSC GIS officer

01.02.2021. In this episode we return to the FSC GIS Portal, which is being launched the same day as the podcast episode releases. In an interview with Andres Ramirez, FSC GIS officer, we dive deep into what the GIS portal can do, who can use it, how it will help innovate auditing processes and what next features are envisioned.

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Episode 14: Co-creating solutions for the World’s forests. FSCs Global Strategy 2021 – 2026

21.01.2021. In this episode, we continue our small series of three podcasts, which is focus on the newly launched FSC Global Strategy 2021 – 2026. In this second episode we focus on the concept of co-creation as an essential part of the strategy. But what is co-creation?

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Episode 13: Utilizing data and technology to accelerate growth and impact. FSCs global strategy 2021 – 2026

22.12.2020. In this episode, we start a small series of three podcasts, which is focus on the newly launched FSC Global Strategy 2021 – 2026. In the first episode we will focus on how FSC will utilize data and technology as prominent tools in delivering our strategy of accelerating our impact and increase the coverage of FSC certified area dramatically.

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Episode 12: FSC and climate mitigation. Interview with Climate Director Pina Gervassi

30.11.2020. In this episode we will talk to Pina Giavassi, the FSC climate director. Because I wanted us to talk about something we all know is important – climate change and how we tackle it in time.

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Episode 11: Why FSC, ISEAL and the certification world need open data. Interview with Michael Marus, CIO and CTO of FSC International and Patrick Mallet, ISEAL Director of Innovations

05.10.2020. The internet is flooded with information, databases and portals. But how do we make use of the wealth of data, that we have access to, and how can working differently with our data help certifications schemes like FSC? That is the topic of this episode of Forest for the Future, which focuses on the concept of Open Data.

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Episode 10: Showing the impact of FSC and linking with the research community, interview with Evaluations and learnings officer Franck Troillet

11.09.2020. How do we make scientific research accessible for ourselves and our stakeholders? That is the focus of this episode featuring Franck Troillet, our Evaluations and learning officer. Franck will let you into his world of impact dashboards, research databases and scientific reporting.

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Episode 9: Making FSC relevant for smallholders and communities worldwide. Interview with Vera Santos, New Approaches Project Manager at FSC

25.08.20. Smallholders and community forests play a key role in combatting climate change but only a fraction of them are certified to FSC. What is FSC doing to change that fact and make our system more relevant to this very important group of forest owners? Vera will explain more about the solutions they are testing currently, like contractor certification, modular approach to certification and improvements to the group certification standard. 

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Episode 8: Can wood samples help save our forests and improve due diligence? Interview with Roger Young, Agroisolab, and Phil Guillery, FSC

06.08.2020. How can gathering wood samples around the world help fight illegal logging and help companies perform due diligence? FSC is reinventing how wood samples can play a role in timber origin verification in a joint project of strong allies. In this episode we dive deep into the project called World Forest ID and learn much more about why the project is so innovative and what it might mean for the future of our forests worldwide.

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Episode 7: How does a certification scheme respond to disruption by a pandemic? Interview with Hans Joachim Droste, Chief Policy Officer at FSC

23.07.2020. The COVID-19 pandemic put a halt to a lot of things moving around the globe – both humans and natural resources. How does a certification scheme like FSC respond to this kind of disruption? In this episode, I dive into these derogations along with our Chief Policy Officer Hans Joachim Droste and learn more what they contain, how they were informed and created and what we have learned from the disruption already.

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Episode 6: Members edition - how is FSC responding as an organization to the COVID-19 pandemic? Interview with CEO Kim Carstensen

09.07.2020. What has FSC done and is doing to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic – both from an organizational point of view and as a certification scheme. How is FSC dealing with the challenges we are facing worldwide and what could we learn from the pandemic and the new situations we find ourselves in. Some of the content might be mostly relevant for members of FSC. But everyone is of course welcome to stay tuned and learn more.

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Episode 5 : The Good Code Hackaton. Interview with Caly Heasman from Docusign and Joanna Nowarowska from FSC

25.06.2020. In this episode of Forest for the Future we focus on an exciting event coming up: The Good Code Hackaton, which will run from July 7th to August 31st 2020. The hackaton is sponsored by Docusign and will help FSC address one of the immediate challenges, which we’ve been faced with: how do you perform audits in a place, that you cannot get to because of COVID-19? 

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Episode 4: How blockchain can help FSC - Interview with CIO Michael Marus

02.06.2020. In this episode we will be looking at what FSC is doing with Blockchain and why. You will hear about what blockchain is, how it can be integrated into FSC, what the timelines are and how our blockchain integrates with all of the other blockchain pilots out there with our stakeholders.

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Episode 3: How standardized data can help improve standards and measure impact. Interviews with Joanna Nowakowska and Chong Sean Zheng

21.05.2020. In this episode we will be looking into how FSC is working to standardize the way information is captured from audit reports. This aim is to make the data more useful to both ourselves and all of our stakeholders. We will be asking Joanna Nowakowska and Sean Cheng, who are working on the project. 

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Episode 2: How is GIS innovating FSC audits? Interviews with Joanna Nowarowska and Andrés Felipe Ramírez

07.05.2020. In this episode we will be looking into how FSC is utilizing GIS tools to innovate the way audits are being informed and even performed. We will be diving into how GIS based tools can help FSC provide digital solutions to the new challenges we are facing due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Because how does a certification system like FSC function, if auditors can’t travel and get on the ground? GIS based verification may be part of the answer.

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Episode 1: Why should FSC digitalize? Interviews with Kim Carstensen, CEO, and Michael Marus, CIO

17.04.2020. Why is it so important that FSC invests in digital? Can tech tools really protect forests? And how will new tools impact current and future FSC certificate holders, retailers, NGOs, governments, researchers and consumers? That’s what we will ask the director of FSC Kim Carstensen and the CIO of FSC Michael Marus in this first episode of Forest for the future.

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FSC Showcases

People fixing the world: the tree detectives tackling illegal logging

We visit the wood archive at Kew Gardens and speak to experts using this technology to help stem the flow of illegally-smuggled timber and protect the planet’s endangered forests.

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The sustainable use of timber in construction

Panel discussion: ​​FSC Project Certification assures your use of guilt-free materials, knowing they came from well-managed forests. Get your project certified, ensuring a lower carbon footprint, helping to fight climate change. Chair: Hattie Hartman, Sustainability Editor for the Architects’ Journal. Panel members: Jeremy Harrison, Forest Stewardship Council; Misak Terzibasiyan, UAArchitects; Giacomo Garziano, GGLoop Amsterdam. 

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The forest fibre potential for the apparel sector

Andrés Ortolano, FSC Italy chain of custody manager, and Ruth Farrell, textiles marketing director at Eastman Naia, debate how and why the apparel sector is sourcing increasing amounts of wood-based fibre. There are clear supply risks, and they discuss what brands can do to ensure that their suppliers are environmentally sustainable. 

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